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	<title>Comments on: Women Make Less Than Men: 5 Things HR Needs to Do Right Now to End Pay Inequality</title>
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		<title>By: David Kaplan</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Kaplan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I won&#039;t take a position on this because I feel that everyone ultimately gets what they deserve; reaps what they sow. But I will post these two compelling and controversial links in the hopes of stimulating thought and intelligent conversation:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/200908/why-modern-feminism-is-illogical-unnecessary-and-evil

and the response:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/snow-white-doesnt-live-here-anymore/200908/why-anti-feminism-is-illogical-unnecessary-evil-and-

Please don&#039;t flame me. I&#039;m mearly the messenger. I think that both authors present valid points, tho.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#8217;t take a position on this because I feel that everyone ultimately gets what they deserve; reaps what they sow. But I will post these two compelling and controversial links in the hopes of stimulating thought and intelligent conversation:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/200908/why-modern-feminism-is-illogical-unnecessary-and-evil" rel="nofollow">http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/200908/why-modern-feminism-is-illogical-unnecessary-and-evil</a></p>
<p>and the response:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/snow-white-doesnt-live-here-anymore/200908/why-anti-feminism-is-illogical-unnecessary-evil-and-" rel="nofollow">http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/snow-white-doesnt-live-here-anymore/200908/why-anti-feminism-is-illogical-unnecessary-evil-and-</a></p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t flame me. I&#8217;m mearly the messenger. I think that both authors present valid points, tho.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Babies, Babies, Everywhere, and Not a Tot to Keep &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Babies, Babies, Everywhere, and Not a Tot to Keep &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 05:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that even in long-term couples women are more often the primary caregivers to their children. Women live off of less than what men make &#8212; that, in combination with the demands of both parenting and having a career, next to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that even in long-term couples women are more often the primary caregivers to their children. Women live off of less than what men make &#8212; that, in combination with the demands of both parenting and having a career, next to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: I can&#8217;t wait until 2057 to get a &#8220;man-sized&#8221; paycheck. Can you? — Authentic Organizations</title>
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		<dc:creator>I can&#8217;t wait until 2057 to get a &#8220;man-sized&#8221; paycheck. Can you? — Authentic Organizations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] follow these steps recommended by Frank Roche at KnowHR, in Women Make Less Than Men: 5 Things HR Needs to Do Right Now to End Pay Inequality.  Frank wrote this for HR managers in 2007, and the steps are still relevant. I quote Frank  below [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] follow these steps recommended by Frank Roche at KnowHR, in Women Make Less Than Men: 5 Things HR Needs to Do Right Now to End Pay Inequality.  Frank wrote this for HR managers in 2007, and the steps are still relevant. I quote Frank  below [...]</p>
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		<title>By: How much are you worth? &#171; Thrown Into Training</title>
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		<dc:creator>How much are you worth? &#171; Thrown Into Training</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 03:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But one of KnowHR’s commenters does. Steven R. said this in response to an article I wrote titled Women Make Less Than Men: 5 Things HR Needs to Do Right Now to End Pay Inequality: Do some research and then come back and write something as dumb as this. Young men do make more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But one of KnowHR’s commenters does. Steven R. said this in response to an article I wrote titled Women Make Less Than Men: 5 Things HR Needs to Do Right Now to End Pay Inequality: Do some research and then come back and write something as dumb as this. Young men do make more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steven R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do some research and then come back and write something as dumb as this. Young men do make more money then young women. The stats are these for every $.92 cents a woman makes a man makes $1. 

Instead of looking at the superficial level. Take a look at the actual facts. For example take a look at young doctors on average a young male doctor works 500 more hours, yes I repeat 500 more hours than young woman doctor. 

Why because the fact is men work for longer hours and stay at jobs longer. So, if it starts an a young age for men and women are getting off to a slow start it&#039;s no wonder why men make more money. 

Most importantly women are happy with the money they are making. They feel like they earned that money and a majority stated they were fine with their salary. The question that needs to be asked is why is what someone makes so importnat? When it&#039;s a fact that money does not equal happiness?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do some research and then come back and write something as dumb as this. Young men do make more money then young women. The stats are these for every $.92 cents a woman makes a man makes $1. </p>
<p>Instead of looking at the superficial level. Take a look at the actual facts. For example take a look at young doctors on average a young male doctor works 500 more hours, yes I repeat 500 more hours than young woman doctor. </p>
<p>Why because the fact is men work for longer hours and stay at jobs longer. So, if it starts an a young age for men and women are getting off to a slow start it&#8217;s no wonder why men make more money. </p>
<p>Most importantly women are happy with the money they are making. They feel like they earned that money and a majority stated they were fine with their salary. The question that needs to be asked is why is what someone makes so importnat? When it&#8217;s a fact that money does not equal happiness?</p>
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		<title>By: KnowHR Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pay Transparency Survey Results: Part 1</title>
		<link>http://www.knowhr.com/blog/2007/04/23/women-make-less-than-men-5-things-hr-needs-to-do-right-now-to-end-pay-inequality/comment-page-1/#comment-49414</link>
		<dc:creator>KnowHR Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pay Transparency Survey Results: Part 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 5 Things HR Needs to Do to End Pay Inequality Now [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fair Pay Thoughts &#171; the Maine HR Cafe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fair Pay Thoughts &#171; the Maine HR Cafe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 02:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fair Pay&#160;Thoughts  Women Make Less Than Men: 5 Things HR Needs to Do Right Now to End Pay Inequality [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi....I went back and re-read this...and it still makes my blood boil to think people aren&#039;t doing something like this. With Ledbetter being enacted, I say don&#039;t do it at your peril.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for your excellent thoughts on this. Interesting take about assignments...not something I considered, but will now. Very good thinking. I appreciate that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi&#8230;.I went back and re-read this&#8230;and it still makes my blood boil to think people aren&#39;t doing something like this. With Ledbetter being enacted, I say don&#39;t do it at your peril.</p>
<p>Thanks for your excellent thoughts on this. Interesting take about assignments&#8230;not something I considered, but will now. Very good thinking. I appreciate that!</p>
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		<title>By: cvharquail</title>
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		<dc:creator>cvharquail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank -- this is a great post, not only because you put organization-wide Pay Equity as part of HR&#039;s responsibility but also becuae your action steps make sense.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If HR managers want to be influential in corporate strategy  and in helping the organizai5ton achieve its mission, then HR should take system-wide responsibility for all pay, promotion, training, recruitment, efforts -- and pay equity is a big part of that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In addition to pay equity, HR managers should also keep track of how assignments are distributed... my own research (many years ago) demonstrated that pay differences were due to unconscious differences in assignments. Male and Female managers at the same level were systematically assigned to different &#039;quality&#039; accounts-- The men got Tide detergent, and the women got Banner bath tissue (ever hear of that brand? no?) &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Remember that pay differences, even when based on &#039;fact&#039; like faster increase in sales, often also depend on other decisions, like assignments, training programs, mentoring, etc., that are subjective and subject to gender bias.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The action steps are great, though.  Have you seen any HR depts. put these into action and make a difference?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank &#8212; this is a great post, not only because you put organization-wide Pay Equity as part of HR&#39;s responsibility but also becuae your action steps make sense.</p>
<p>If HR managers want to be influential in corporate strategy  and in helping the organizai5ton achieve its mission, then HR should take system-wide responsibility for all pay, promotion, training, recruitment, efforts &#8212; and pay equity is a big part of that.</p>
<p>In addition to pay equity, HR managers should also keep track of how assignments are distributed&#8230; my own research (many years ago) demonstrated that pay differences were due to unconscious differences in assignments. Male and Female managers at the same level were systematically assigned to different &#39;quality&#39; accounts&#8211; The men got Tide detergent, and the women got Banner bath tissue (ever hear of that brand? no?) </p>
<p>Remember that pay differences, even when based on &#39;fact&#39; like faster increase in sales, often also depend on other decisions, like assignments, training programs, mentoring, etc., that are subjective and subject to gender bias.</p>
<p>The action steps are great, though.  Have you seen any HR depts. put these into action and make a difference?</p>
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		<title>By: Miami Catering</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miami Catering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The American Association of University Women released a new study that shows that women make less than men right out of school</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The American Association of University Women released a new study that shows that women make less than men right out of school</p>
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